View Full Version : Parameter Files & Starter Flames (Apophysis) Only In Here Please
classylady
26th October 2005, 07:46
We've decided it would be easier to follow if we post Parameters and Images of that parameter in this thread. Comments will be only allowed in Comments thread.
Thanks :D
Engel47
26th October 2005, 10:04
Parameters for my mutation of Classylady's fluffymutate_me11 (image in the other thread :) http://www.innertraveler.com/messagecenter/showthread.php?p=8662#post8662
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Sassenach
26th October 2005, 11:52
This was on the previous thread, I've moved it over here now.
http://home.comcast.net/~lonkat/seriously_alien.jpg
Seriously Alien ! Lots to work with here and to zoom in on.. Enjoy!
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Pakar
26th October 2005, 19:51
Ok, That's my turn.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/Pakar/ScreenShot037IT.jpg
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Some comments in the other thread.
Pakar
bigH
27th October 2005, 13:24
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/bigH60/Apophysis-051027-301.jpg
did pakar one -
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bigH
27th October 2005, 16:07
new one - The Queen
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/bigH60/thequeen.jpg
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Engel47
27th October 2005, 16:46
The parameters for "Rainbow Coral" which can be seen in the gallery Here (http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=19254&cat=500&page=1)
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Sassenach
27th October 2005, 18:30
Pakars image redone:
http://home.comcast.net/~lonkat/pakars.jpg
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Sassenach
27th October 2005, 18:51
Big H's THE QUEEN - now The Alter
http://home.comcast.net/~lonkat/The_Alter.jpg
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Sassenach
27th October 2005, 19:08
Engel's Rainbow Coral - Redux
http://home.comcast.net/~lonkat/engels-rainbow-coral-redux.jpg
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Sassenach
27th October 2005, 20:26
Here's another from me
http://home.comcast.net/~lonkat/blossom.jpg
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classylady
28th October 2005, 02:56
Heres a couple from me this one should look like the image
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classylady
28th October 2005, 02:58
and #2 both should give you multi flames with no problems
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Engel47
28th October 2005, 12:14
Sassenachs version of pakars image (post #8 with my twist on it :)
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Pakar
28th October 2005, 12:17
From the Bigh's Queen the mouth of T REX.
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Pakar
Engel47
28th October 2005, 12:42
and from Classyladys post # 13 - that gorgeous spiral......
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wile1
29th October 2005, 00:21
Lets see if I have this Bird right :D
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http://www.heartcreators.net/wile1/classylady06aparrot.jpg
Engel47
29th October 2005, 11:43
for anyone that wants it here are the parameters for my Psychedelic Jellyfish which can be found here (http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=19332&cat=500&page=1)
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classylady
30th October 2005, 01:12
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this one is Sass Blossom
classylady
30th October 2005, 01:14
BigH Queen redone
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classylady
30th October 2005, 01:16
Pakars Original redone
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classylady
30th October 2005, 01:18
Then I frankly got confused this is one of pakars originally at least lol
it is quite possible I did use the same parameters I think I got myself confused lol
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classylady
30th October 2005, 01:21
Here is one to try also if anyone wants too
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classylady
30th October 2005, 01:23
anyone want to play with my metal bird
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classylady
30th October 2005, 01:31
Okay Angela I got yours now..... :) finally
and LouAnn take one of the parameter files that you know is good and just play with it all mine and most others have clean flames you may have to adjust your gama and vibrancy I know I do on each of them don't be affraid to share and ask questions if you want. oops wrong thread for this....eeeeeeuuuuuuu....
classylady
30th October 2005, 01:39
One more this is another one with tons of different ones in it to use. :blowkiss:
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Engel47
30th October 2005, 04:57
My version of Big H's The Queen.
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ppetersen
30th October 2005, 14:48
Well I guess I'll be doing so fractal work today. Great idea ... and will post as soon as I get some of them done. :)
classylady
30th October 2005, 15:20
This is my version of Angela'sPsychedelicjellyfish
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I know strange colors still looks darn good...
Engel47
11th November 2005, 09:57
Someone asked if my recent upload (Silk Ribbons and Rays) was a single flame - Well the answer is yes - you can see the image Here (http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=19875)
Have a play and post your images, Here are the parameters:
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classylady
22nd November 2005, 09:41
You know I copied this one and still haven't tried it.OOps sorry Angela busy with daily life.Got it again now going to relax and play for a bit.
here is one someone may like to play with, also
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classylady
25th November 2005, 12:04
Come on people post your par files here and a thumb if possible. If your sharing one that is already posted in the gallery a link will be okay.
Thanks
Engel47
23rd February 2006, 01:57
Parameters for "ear of Wheat" http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=24373
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Enjoy:bounce:
classylady
23rd February 2006, 02:23
wow Thanks Angela that is one gorgeous apo work.
Thanks for sharing this par file.
martas_art
21st March 2006, 09:38
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Have fun with it.
Marta
classylady
21st March 2006, 16:07
Thanks Marta can't wait to try it out. Hopefully today sometime...... oh goodie another one to play with.....:)
Well this is the base for my "Cradle of Virtue" image. I usually don't post these, because I have had my work stolen then sold. (not with Apo but other programs). But Since I do see a lot of people having trouble getting there head around Apo, I thought what the heck. Maybe If this helps out just one person, then someday I will be helped...
Anyway this is just the base for it, and you should see it really is pretty easy. The only thing I ask is that if you make anything cool from it I wanna see :) and atleast give credit. anyway here it is....and this is all the triangles I used for that image as well.
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classylady
18th May 2006, 13:35
Hey Thanks nemo but here we just share if we want to and don't expect any credit most of us if we do make something to post normally we do say who's par file it is but we also are all friends here, sharing is just part of friendship.
what most of us do is post a thumb here along with the new flame we've come up with.
Thanks I'll give it a try
Yea it was over there. It was a while back, but things seem better there now so I just started posting there again.
And I'm happy to see it's such a friendly site here. I don't mind sharing. Infact if there was or is, a section to upload flames. I do have a sample flame file with some of the basics for people to play with. and hopefully learn from... But I don't see one, or I'm overlooking it (lack of sleep) so I will attach it here since it's a small file.
classylady
18th May 2006, 18:10
you can post your par files in the freebies section just make a thumb of some of the flames and post them there but they are hosted on your own site.
if you click on my link to fractal freestuff it goes to our site tons of start flame sets there and grads..... I believe not sure some are still in the free section......
How long have you been working with apo??
for me at least 6 years have seen this program go for top notch to what I really don't want to say here.....course being older I don't like a lot of changes it something works why keep changing it plus we all know there are problems with this version.......known problems....so why they do correct them and release a new version with no problems is beyond me but that was what they all wanted I guess......
I'm sure T will be stopping by soon even though I taught her the basics of Apo she certainly does some awesome ones take a look in the Fractal challenge you'll see what I mean just look for T's work OH darn can never spell her full nic so we all call her T but check it out.......
I have been using Apo for about 2 years off and on. When I first started, and up until about 2 weeks or so before the 2.04 release, All I did was mess around with the random flames and tweak them into something that looked cool.
Then I was introduced to DA. From there I saw Zueuk's work and was astounded. up until then I never saw anything so good. So I took a couple days out and did nothing but start from scatch to see what every function did. Now I do all my flames from scratch. I never even used a script yet. The hardest thing is coming up with something new.
Everyone talks about the bugs in 2.04beta, but I have not had a single problem at all. The only thing I notice, and I gues this could be a tip, is that when using the Xform your image and or preview will iether disappear or go far back. But if you go under the "Triangle" tab and enter .001 in the O parameter, it stays more stable, and doesn't disappear.
And I know what you mean about change. My first real (non-Texas instrament) computer was a Comadore64. I was mad when apple ibm and them came out, I got confused. The good thing is since I changed with the times I now fix pc's for a living, and it's usually something so simple I feel guilty charging people for.
I will check out her gallery. Alot of the work I see here I never saw on any other site, which is refreshing. And most of them are really good. Well enough of my squakin' This is why I don't post much, I get long winded :)
Edit: I take it back, I do use the scripts for animation I wrote a cool one for a saved animation, morphing from one flame to another, I lost it the last time I reformated. ( I do it once a year to keep Pc clean, sometimes I lose things) I have to re do that one. it was sorta cool. Based off of the morphing script thats been out and the animation one.
tdierikx
18th May 2006, 22:29
Hey there nemo!
Looks like you and me got some things in common...
* Think Zueuk makes exceptional works... lol!
* Love messing with Apophysis.
* Know that tinkering with PC's is really not worth the money we charge for doing it.
I owe my addiction to Apophysis to classylady (Carolyn) - she was my guiding light in the fog that was Apo when I first started using it about 15 months ago... sometimes I get to teach her things now... but not all that often... lol!
You can find a much more extensive range of my works at DA - same username as here... Posted one that would make Zueuk proud today in fact... haha!
I feel the same as Carolyn when it comes to sharing parameters - I don't ask for any credit when people create works from anything I post here... I'm just fascinated to see what others can get from whatever I post - even if it is just a gradient change...
Looking forward to seeing more of your works my new friend...
T.
I just looked at your DA site. Very good stuff indeed. for only 15 months you are really doing fantastic. and I have to say out of all the sites I belong to, I have had the best welcome on this site then any other. And yes the things I get paid for to do on a Pc, are ubelievable.
BTW I use nemopaice over on DA.
tdierikx
18th May 2006, 23:33
hahaha! I found your DA gallery my friend! Nice stuff!
As for my "proficiency" with Apophysis... well... I'm a fiddler. I just love to fiddle and see what happens... and I have a lot of spare time to do it in... lol! The joys of working shiftwork... hehe! Oh, and being on the Apo testing team helps too... those guys are amazing - and some of it just has to rub off methinks!
Have you checked out the work of the Faber brothers at DA? joelfaber has amended his own version of Apo 2.04 (and is sharing it via DA) - and michaelfaber is a genius artist also...
...and if you like the plastic flames, you can't go past welshwench at DA - she is the queen of the plastic style IMHO! (she taught me a whole lot about doing that style)
T.
T.
tdierikx
18th May 2006, 23:38
Here are the parms for another Julia styled flame I made the other day - very similar to the "Inspired by Zueuk" image in my gallery...
http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=28475&size=big&cat=&date=1148007813
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Enjoy!
T.
I did check out Michaels Great stuff. I didn't know about joel's. I will check it out.
I will most assuradly play with that Par. I think some of the best stuff comes from julia(n)'s. I also just found out the other day, that when you're in the variations tab, you can hold down the left click over the name of the variation you want to add and drag the mouse left or right to fine tune them. That has helped a whole lot.
tdierikx
19th May 2006, 00:47
I really only do the PC stuff as a sideline - and for cash...
I'm a computer operator by "trade" - overpaid babysitter for about $100 million worth of equipment... hahaha!
You should try Joel Faber's version of apo 2.04 - he's added another Julian variation so that you can have 2 in the one transform... way cool fun... and he's added a couple other variation changes too...
T.
I just downloaded it. Already made some adjustments to my "Cradle of Virtue" render. I'm redering out the result now to see how it looks full view. He doesn't have a big gallery there, but he is real good at tilling.
I did my Pc bussiness full time until Hurricane charley took money out of my pocket and house. Now I do it part time also. Mainly because I recently went back to college. Strange too, I feel too old for school (in my 30's) I'm older than a couple of my professers too, just by a couple years, which is funny because I argue with them alot.
Incase anyone wants to play with this one, it's simple but might be fun for someone. It's my face Par.....
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tdierikx
19th May 2006, 15:50
The "new" Apo is a modification of 2.04 that a guy called Joel Faber has done... it works the same as the original 2.04, but has a couple of variation changes... if you don't like the current 2.04, you probably won't like his one either... lol!
T.
classylady
19th May 2006, 19:02
I always got frustrated too. Once I started from scratch and left the mutation window alone, it got better.
When I first learned Apo I never even knew about the mutation window lol
but now it does make it easier to find one I want to work on. So for me it can be a plus and sometimes not. Now isn't that a straight yes and no answer lol:D just being a typical woman lol
classylady
19th May 2006, 19:20
Hey T I have a question last night I tried 2.02 ok would you believe the colors were perfect then when I went back to 2.04 they were all yukky again my thinking and of course I don't know how it works but maybe worth passing this along to those who make Apo ... since all these new versions are just dropped into the same folder could it be a possible conflict of some kind ask at DA or whoever, I wonder what would happen if each of these new versions were installed on there own if that would help the color problems. think about it if the new ones are working off of 2.02 there is a possibility its older then these new versions plus with the added variations could that also be a problem. I'm just asking but why don't they get rid of some of the variations that they know are a problem as in cosine. at least think about it there could be some type of conflict couldn't there be??
tdierikx
19th May 2006, 19:55
Hmmm... I don't think that where you have the Apo .exe files would make any real difference to the gradient display or colour choices... as far as can tell, that is dictated by your options settings.
Then again, changing the weights of some of the transforms can really change the way a gradient effect is applied to the flame as a whole too... and you can lower the Vibrancy setting to get a brighter flame (beats me how that works... lol!)
The number of variations available, and how they work, should not affect gradient generation either - totally separate modules of the code are used for variations and for gradients.
As far as I know, no-one has tinkered with the gradient editor module since well before 2.02z came out... the only thing that has been done from 2.02z onwards is to link the gradient editor module to the new Adjustments tab section (added in 2.02z) - the actual module has not been touched, so it shouldn't be playing up for you the way you say it is...
The mutation window issue is on the list of things to be fixed in the next release of Apo... but I'm finding that not using the mutations window is getting me a lot more satisfying results lately... hahaha!
T.
but I'm finding that not using the mutations window is getting me a lot more satisfying results lately... hahaha!
T.
Exactly. :)
me being typical male :)
There is some difference in 2.02 and 2.04. I had a nice tile flame I did in 2.02 still looked good in 2.03, when I loaded it in 2.04 it looked bad, real bad. The color was off a little and it was blurry. But everything else in 2.04 was so much better I just ignored it.
tdierikx
19th May 2006, 20:08
Have you posted this finding to the buglist at Sourceforge?
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=127736&atid=709294
T.
NOt yet because I didn't know where. But I will now :)
tdierikx
19th May 2006, 21:36
Hahaha! Sorry to spring it on you my friend...
I've been playing with one of my (not so fantastic at first look) parms today... and I'm getting some very nice things out of it... very "Zueuk" nice if you get my drift... lol!
It's totally amazing what playing with weights and gradient settings can do for an image, wouldn't you agree?
T.
rrrg. Can't wait to see it.
I love that style. Been playing with one alot today thats very Zueukistic. just don't have it quite the way I want yet.
It's always those little things that drive me crazy. And yes, playing with the weights and using negative variations has been my little not so secret (but yet still kind of) way of bringing out the best parts of the image. Duplicates also work well :)
tdierikx
19th May 2006, 21:56
Try playing with this one...
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T.
tdierikx
19th May 2006, 23:37
Wow! Carolyn - those images are awesome!!!
:jawdrop:
As for the Zueuk reference... he is one of the Apophysis developers, and he gets some very cool images using Julia(n) variations... his gallery can be found at http://zueuk.deviantart.com/gallery/
I have been working on trying to get something similar to his julias for a while now - and I think I've almost cracked it... lol!
The parms I posted above are for one image that I think gets pretty close to Zueuk's work... and also leaves some room for others to tinker around with it to see what they can get happening...
T.
I agree WOW. I bet your getting happy with 2.04 now :) very good job.
And yes Zueuk is great with his renders. My siren image was my first and best as of yet, attempt at his unique style. For my first attempt I think I did pretty good.
The par. you posted T. is a good Julia base. I have used one very similar many times. And I am rendering out my result now from my tweak on it. Suprisingly, and proof that I am a creature of habit it is pretty similar to my "Siren", But still different.
Well, I just finnished rendering it. like I said it's similar to my other one (Siren) But I just love the color of this one. When it was done I took it into PSP and the only thing I did was a fade correction. and it brought out the colors so nicely.
I would have posted it here, (and will tomorrow), but I already uploaded one here tonight. So if ya want to see it it's in my DA gallery here...
http://nemopaice.deviantart.com/
And I did thank you T. And I thank you again. I just love the colors I used. and it got my mind off my headache I was working on earlier.
tdierikx
20th May 2006, 01:46
Excellent job nemo! I really love the gradient you've used... superb!
I did 20 images today from the parms that started that one I shared... just gotta figure how I want to display them - DA, or my private gallery?
The base parms for that one I shared above will also feature in Phraktalous's DA ATC challenge next week I've been told... lol!
T.
Thanks.
I hate taking anything into A paint program for touch ups, but that fade correction is fantastic. All it does is take out the color wash.
I have like 10 or so I got just from my "Cradle of Virtue" param.
and I can't wait to see your "Zueukristic" one you were working on. michaelfaber did a nice one like it today also.
That's cool,
I've been meaning to check out that ATC challenge. I will sooner or later.
classylady
21st May 2006, 00:38
Result of the 1st one I did incase others also may want to play with them all
Nothing like yours nemo but some are just learning their way around this version . thanks again for the par file I did 2 or 3 more today
T I took yours but don't ask me where I put it so I just grabbed it again..
Thanks to you both very much
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classylady
21st May 2006, 00:41
Par file on the second one listed from nemo's par file I called it fruit balls lol
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When you post any of your par file images you might want to make note in comments where others can find these....at least no one can say we're not trying to help....
Thanks again you two..
classylady
21st May 2006, 00:47
Wow! Carolyn - those images are awesome!!!
:jawdrop:
As for the Zueuk reference... he is one of the Apophysis developers, and he gets some very cool images using Julia(n) variations... his gallery can be found at http://zueuk.deviantart.com/gallery/
I have been working on trying to get something similar to his julias for a while now - and I think I've almost cracked it... lol!
The parms I posted above are for one image that I think gets pretty close to Zueuk's work... and also leaves some room for others to tinker around with it to see what they can get happening...
T.
Thanks T yes I know who he is and he's on my list there I'm just using a totally different name there lol sneeky huh....I just don't want alot of people there knowing who I really am. Mainly because most there came from rendo a couple of which I helped get started in apo now heck I'm still ashamed to post my work ..but thanks glad you liked these.
The one I'd like to see is the one you did for the challenge now that one is totally awesome...... how in the world you got so many colors in it is way beyond my knowledge. I'll slowly get there lol I hope.:sadangel:
Here is a nice lacy julia for anyone to play with.
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classylady
21st May 2006, 17:42
Thanks nemo got it hope I can play with apo some time today....
classylady
21st May 2006, 17:50
This is another one from nemo's wip2
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classylady
21st May 2006, 17:52
and yet another on called it Friend Green Tomotoes....lol
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tdierikx
21st May 2006, 19:26
Once the challenge is over, I'll post the parms for that image here, OK?
Don't forget to remind me... lol!
T.
judee3d
22nd May 2006, 02:26
Okay, carolyn, here is the question (you may repost it in another thread if you think that would be more appropriate).
How do you get that rounded global look, like in green tomatoes?
I'm mystified!
tdierikx
22nd May 2006, 03:06
judee3d,
The rounded look is achieved by using the Blur variation.
Try adding a transform to any flame - set Linear to 0 and Blur to 0.25 - see what happens... lol!
T.
classylady
22nd May 2006, 04:03
Once the challenge is over, I'll post the parms for that image here, OK?
Don't forget to remind me... lol!
T.
Oh don't worry about that I'll remind you....lol
classylady
22nd May 2006, 04:06
Okay, carolyn, here is the question (you may repost it in another thread if you think that would be more appropriate).
How do you get that rounded global look, like in green tomatoes?
I'm mystified!
What T said is about it you can use one of nemo's par files even one of mine will get you going check out the par files posted I believe it was the very first one he posted...great learning par file..
Thanks T for the additional info....
Absolutley....The round balls and things are really easy. They are just blur veriations. for a small one 0.25 will work and if you give it just a little of some other variation, (I prefer julia), then you can move the little balls around. cant remember if this is the one I posted or not?.....But this is a good par to play with that has a ball in it and symmetry.....it is my "Cradle of Virtue" Base.......have fun.....
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judee3d
22nd May 2006, 19:01
Thanks for the tips! If it weren't 1 a.m. I'd give it a try, but looks like I'll have to wait til tomorrow!
Happy rendering all!
classylady
23rd May 2006, 15:02
Thanks guys for the par files you have no idea how much this has helped a lot people get going with these different styles.....
yep grapped this one I think if we keep listing the forum thread more people will stop by.....
Judee hope these are helping you out.
Hugs guys I'm still half asleep yet. laters
tdierikx
27th May 2006, 01:03
I promised to post the parms for the image that I submitted to the May fractal challenge once the voting was over... so here they are... enjoy!
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T.
classylady
27th May 2006, 07:31
Thanks T boy do I want to check this one out lol.......... see how badly I can work it lol......j/k
thanks again
Engel47
28th May 2006, 15:21
Me too T - Thanks a bunch :)
classylady
29th May 2006, 04:36
I know its hard guys but lets try to keep all the par files in this thread. easier to try and find for everyone.......
Thanks guys and yes I know I need to post a few par files.
I will hopefully tomorrow.....
classylady
29th May 2006, 16:34
Question....is there a way to copy all of the triangles, in mass, so you can then just move over a little on the working screen and paste them? Like a layer without layer. Did that make sense?
This question is for Lady of the Lake.....so go for the answer anyone :)
tdierikx
29th May 2006, 23:26
Enjoy yourselves ladies... lol!
T.
tdierikx
29th May 2006, 23:34
Quick answer?
No.
Possible workaround (if you are talking about a small number of triangles):
1. select the triangle you want to duplicate, and then click on the Duplicate button (3rd button from the left in the Editor window)
2. move the newly duplicated triangle wherever you want it.
3. Repeat the above steps for all other triangles that you want to duplicate/move...
Fiddly - but it will do what you are asking.
T.
classylady
30th May 2006, 00:54
Thanks T that is pretty much what I told her.
Engel47
30th May 2006, 07:11
Parameters for my image Cold, Hard Steel - http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=29012&cat=500&ppuser=165 (thanks for T for telling me how to find the flame file which I had "lost").
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Lady of the Lake
30th May 2006, 09:40
Okay, thanks for the duplicating answer. Will give it a try.
Am sure this is such an elementary questions and has been answered many times before.....but how do I use the things (settings) you guys have been posted. Copy them and paste them .....where???? LOL
Lyla
classylady
30th May 2006, 09:42
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Here is a symmetry one to play with
classylady
30th May 2006, 09:47
Okay, thanks for the duplicating answer. Will give it a try.
Am sure this is such an elementary questions and has been answered many times before.....but how do I use the things (settings) you guys have been posted. Copy them and paste them .....where???? LOL
Lyla
on these par files cop and paste first to note pad and save them once you have apo open select all from notepad go to edit and you will see paste click on paste and it will come into the window of apo.
classylady
30th May 2006, 09:47
Angela where did you end up finding it at???
classylady
30th May 2006, 10:38
Here is another one to play with
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Engel47
31st May 2006, 06:54
Angela where did you end up finding it at???
Exactly where T and yourself said it would be :o - it was hiding (that's my excuse and I am sticking to it).
AnnaKirsten
31st May 2006, 16:12
Here is my par file for Rosewood Carving (shown HERE (http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=29108&cat=500&ppuser=1828)).. ENJOY!!
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classylady
31st May 2006, 18:34
Exactly where T and yourself said it would be :o - it was hiding (that's my excuse and I am sticking to it).
lol sounds like a good deal to me Angela
Now I'm going to also grab Nicky's par file and try to work on yours and hers.
Thanks to both of you and everyone else in sharing your par files. I think a lot of people maybe not say thank you but do grab them and if any of the par files will help just one person its well worth it.
:blowkiss:
AnnaKirsten
1st June 2006, 05:58
Here is the par file I developed into what became Les Derrierres and after that, Rosewood Carving - for anyone who'd like to have a play!
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Engel47
1st June 2006, 06:29
Parameter files for Macaroni (here - http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=29132&date=1149157276) if anyone wants to have a play with that :)
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classylady
1st June 2006, 11:36
I'll be back for these I know I have a few to post too so enjoy till I get some sleep first. lol :blowkiss: Thanks ladies for sharing.
OK, I havent posted any Par. for a while so, here is one for ya all to play with.
I have been on heart themes for a couple days now. Not really sure why, just something different.
Now this is just the base, you have to add your own elements. But it's nice and defined. And this only will work with 2.04, because it relies on the "Final" Xform.
anyhoot, here ya go hope you have fun with it.....
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PatGoltz
5th June 2006, 08:59
Here's a par for you, that you may enjoy playing with. I tweaked the par from Nemo called Heart Base, immediately below mine. I may or may not upload this one, but enjoy it anyway.
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Quick answer?
No.
Possible workaround (if you are talking about a small number of triangles):
1. select the triangle you want to duplicate, and then click on the Duplicate button (3rd button from the left in the Editor window)
2. move the newly duplicated triangle wherever you want it.
3. Repeat the above steps for all other triangles that you want to duplicate/move...
Fiddly - but it will do what you are asking.
T.
T. I think this duplication could be scripted without all the fiddling. If we are talking all the triangles, then it shouldn't be too much of a problem. It's when you try and do 'selective' copying that problems arise. Now whether copying all the transforms would actually result in something aesthetically pleasing is something else :Ohmygod:
tdierikx
6th June 2006, 21:33
Good point Carl... I thought the same thing.... lol!
T.
classylady
7th June 2006, 17:48
Thanks nemo I saw your gorgeous creation from this file thanks so much for sharing.
Happy to share, and thanks for the compliment :)
In the spirit of sharing here is yet another. It's a variation of my "Gilded" post.
I personaly think this one is a little better than it. Like to see what you all come up with....
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jdhauser
9th June 2006, 20:48
I've just started looking at Nemo's "Cradle Base." That puts me a bit behind everyone at this point.
Cradle Base is an excellent flame for learning a "few" things.
Thanks Nemo! I've have some homework to do... :reading:
Jim
classylady
10th June 2006, 01:10
Not to worry jd between all the wonderful people here helping us all learn 2.04 you won't be behind for long.....
http://www.ivy-cottage.net/
di dyou get this tut yet done by
2BH2 or Carl who is also a new member here so ask away.......ok:blowkiss:
Thanks Carol for this fabulous tut.....:blowkiss:
classylady
10th June 2006, 01:16
Thanks nemo for posting it.....yep I grapped it just now lol...... thi sis one I came up with from Nickys Rosewood hope to post it later tonight.http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=29532&date=1149929483
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2B2H
10th June 2006, 01:59
Not to worry jd between all the wonderful people here helping us all learn 2.04 you won't be behind for long.....
http://www.ivy-cottage.net/
di dyou get this tut yet done by
2BH2 or Carl who is also a new member here so ask away.......ok:blowkiss:
Thanks Carol for this fabulous tut.....:blowkiss:
Only at the weekends :rofl:
classylady
10th June 2006, 05:34
Only at the weekends :rofl:
OMG lol can you tell I was thinking faster then my fingers were typing lol lol.........
I'm sorry Carl.......lol oh boy what a day already lol...... lol I just hope it gets better lol:juggle: to much lately..... or just plain old age lol.....:blowkiss: :blowkiss:
bigH
10th June 2006, 06:04
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classylady
10th June 2006, 15:18
Hey thanks big guy got it and will give it a whirl....thanks tons :clap:
nemo
12th June 2006, 00:21
Here is a funky pastel one I did a while back.....Good luck
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classylady
12th June 2006, 04:30
Thanks nemo that is one thing I am always forgetting to do is to copy the my own par files to share. I got this one but do have 1 or 2 that really turned out nicely my problem is not enough time to do everything.:rofl:
Thanks again so very much for sharing.
AnnaKirsten
16th June 2006, 18:36
In response to request, here is my par file for "Delicious Jelly (http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=29806&cat=500&ppuser=1828)".
I was asked how I got the variegation in the middle and as I didn't write down the method, that's a bit difficult for me to answer, but I can only suggest if people want to, place the mouse over each triangle (in the editor) to see what it consists of, look at their variance values, the transform weights, and then begin to methodically move them around to see what gets affected by which action you take. Transform 4 is a duplicate of Transform 3 btw, and I then did some extra manipulations of Transform 4. Transform 3 is the one that gets the variegation in the center of the fractal.
I'd be very interested to see what others might do with this par...
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AnnaKirsten
16th June 2006, 18:56
For Angie! And anyone else who wants to play. This is the par file for Hold Me Tight MaMa!!! (http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=29770&cat=500&ppuser=1828).
Not all gradients are suitable for the metallic look, but some are excellent so it's a bit hit and miss on that I'm afraid. Sometimes I right click on the gradient and allow random gradients to occur, but other times I find a more defined colourset is better. Just depends on what effect you particularly want...
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classylady
17th June 2006, 16:37
Thanks Nicky will give it a try.... I'm so behind......:crutch: on everything just can't catch up ......but will give this one a go.....thanks so much for sharing. I want to try and get at least one image in to MM challenge I'd better get busy huh lol
AnnaKirsten
17th June 2006, 17:37
LOL! Just call me Apophyboggled! I'm totally hooked on this version and cannot think beyond its addictive properties!!! :spacecraf
classylady
17th June 2006, 18:10
That is just wonderful I am so glad your enjoying this new version .....I have a few par files to post but I really need to comment and do a few things first.
like enter MM challenge lol...what a day already......
Thanks again Nicky and keep those beautiful flames coming........ :chorus:
Mags61
17th June 2006, 18:34
Here's a tweak of Delicious Jelly - sorry, I got a bit carried away!! Haven't figured out how to add the image as it;s just sitting on my desktop. If I sort it out I'll add it later.
493
Here's the par file
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AnnaKirsten
17th June 2006, 18:51
WOW Mags, that's brilliant! I've just copied it and opened it up in mine! To upload it here you need to save your render as a jpeg and upload as an attachment. I have a feeling the restriction is 100kb, but Carolyn will know if that's so, as I haven't added any attachments since the latest upgrade. (Sorry if I'm telling you something you already know!)
I wonder if yours looks the same...
Mags61
17th June 2006, 19:41
Thank you for putting me right about adding the image - hope it looks the same!
AnnaKirsten
18th June 2006, 04:59
Oooh yes! It's exactly the same (it should be of course, but you never know with different people's settings on their computers and things). It reminds me of owls!
classylady
18th June 2006, 13:47
Yes I do believe the size is 100 kb to upload here in the forum...
Gorgeous Mags and thanks for the par file. how you upload is go down below your message you will see manage attachments and you will see where and how to upload simply click on adding attachment and browse to the image hit upload and thats about it.
This is what is under manage attachments.......
Miscellaneous Options
Show your signature
Automatically parse links in text
Disable smilies in text Attach Files
Valid file extensions: bmp doc gif jpe jpeg jpg pdf png psd txt vob zip
and the size you put up is just right.
Thanks Nicky for helping out. and when you have time see what I did for the MM challenge not all that god but least you have a few more posts.
Thanks again everyone.....
be back later after some sleep.
but here is what you look for right below a new message
nemo
20th June 2006, 21:27
Here's a Par from a pic I posted here, with a slight tweak For what ever reason I went brain dead and couldn't come up with anything other than this after playing with it for 4 hours. Can't wait to see what you all can do with it.
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3127/disturbed3xg.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=disturbed3xg.jpg)
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Engel47
24th June 2006, 19:04
Just a few to see if there is any interest in us providing starter flames for members :)
Engel47
24th June 2006, 19:08
Set 2 for you to try - there is just 4 flames in this one :)
AnnaKirsten
24th June 2006, 19:11
Oooh excellent! I've just downloaded these and had a look and they're great! (I haven't yet looked at them in the editor, but guess what? It's midnight!!!)
Thanks very much for sharing these.
Engel47
25th June 2006, 04:12
Glad you like them :) I have to experiment to see how many flames one can get in there and still keep the zip under 100KB so that it can be uploaded to the forum.
Engel47
25th June 2006, 04:21
Pack 3 - there are 23 flames in this set :) Enjoy.
Anyone feels like sharing - please go ahead - so long as your zip is 100KB or under it can be upload to this thread the same way as an image would be. Anyone not sure how to upload just ask and I can do a couple of screen shots for you.
Engel47
25th June 2006, 15:26
21 more starter flames for you :)
AnnaKirsten
25th June 2006, 15:33
Excellent stuff Angela! I had a twiddle of some earlier, but my muse is absent at the moment!!!! Give it time.....
Mags61
25th June 2006, 16:50
I've had a quick look at these too and I think they'll be really good to play with. Thank you for sharing these - it's a very kind gesture.
Went to bed at 4.00 am last night and was up again at 7.00 am - took my two granddaughters, aged 6 and 8, out all day - guess where I'm going now!!
Wish I could remember that I'm 63 not 23!!
Mags
AnnaKirsten
25th June 2006, 17:20
I hope you have a really good, long sleeeeeep, Mags! Looking forward very much to seeing what you do with the starter flames when you get the time! lol!
wile1
26th June 2006, 19:31
Mags!! don't say that you are as old as you think you are and thats 23 :D Im catching up to you though will be 60 in october. But some days feel older and some days feel like a kid!
jdhauser
5th July 2006, 14:52
Parameter file for Bub1:
http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=30578&cat=500&ppuser=2385
(The uploaded image has slight pw adjustments - contrast+1, brightness-1.) Within Apo, the gamma and vibrancy settings shown work best for me. Brightness is adjusted case by case.
Now I'm going to grab Nemo's last parm....:sherlock:
Oh... how do you get the thumbnail in these threads?
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AnnaKirsten
5th July 2006, 16:46
Thanks so much jd, I'm sure this will be very interesting, and it's a very good example of a nice big set of transparent looking bubbles too!
jdhauser
9th July 2006, 15:39
Paramter file for Cluster:
http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=30755&cat=611
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Ooooooo, the cluster is so cool! I wonder if I can spiral it? ( I am first and foremost a spiral junkie) Gonna go play and see what happens. Thank you for the params!
AnnaKirsten
9th July 2006, 19:00
Thanks again for sharing this JD. I will give these a go at some point soon (am currently trying some other stuff and giving Apo a break for a short time, but I know I will be back to it - can't actually leave it alone for long or I start to pine! lol!)
judee3d
10th July 2006, 05:08
Wow, thanks so much for those parameters jd!! That Cluster of bubbles is totally amazing! Should be interesting to see what kind of other flames this can generate!
nemo
11th July 2006, 01:56
Been a while since I posted a param, so here is one I never posted anywhere I made it a few weeks ago, It can be a touchy flame, enjoy....
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AnnaKirsten
11th July 2006, 04:44
Thanks Nemo! :) Well I guess I'll be opening up Apo again pretty soon, lol! Can't keep away from it for long!
wile1
11th July 2006, 11:23
You know I can do some amazing stuff with these parameters but I just don't know how ya'll get them like this in the first place! I can't do it. I know I know apo isn't my forte! But that last one nemo is amazing and jd wow the bubbles !! Keep them coming I like playing with them :D
Q.R.
11th July 2006, 19:17
heres what I came up with on JD's file. No way could I get a decent spiral shape and still keep the bubbles.
Q.R.
11th July 2006, 19:32
OOps, heres the parameter file for the one I did
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Not sure if did that right.....I've never done it before.
AnnaKirsten
12th July 2006, 08:27
That's beautiful QR! No, I'm not sure with the particular combination of xforms that are already in existence that a spiral could be made from this par file without first deleting a lot of them and starting again - 'though I stand to be corrected of course! I had a little play with the first of these two par fiels yesterday, but to be honest, I didn't make anything very satisfactory out of it. But I didn't have a lot of time to spare either, lol!
AnnaKirsten
12th July 2006, 08:37
Oh... how do you get the thumbnail in these threads?
I'm sorry I only just noticed this question, JD!
When making a post, go to the bottom of the page where you will see (amongst other things) "Manage Attachments." From there you can browse your computer and upload an image, but it must be less than 100kb in file-size, and best if it's a jpeg. Don't forget, once you've clicked on the image you want to upload, then go ahead and upload it. You will shortly thereafter see it appear in your attachments for the post you're making.
You will not see the picture in preview btw, and it will go below anything you type. Once you submit your post, the image(s) will appear. You can upload several images, one after the other, so long as each one is less than 100kb.
AnnaKirsten
12th July 2006, 16:22
(I wasn't sure whether to put this into Starter Flames or here in this thread, and decided here, since it includes a parameter file. )
I thought I'd post this simple 2 transform starter flame and short tut up for people who are still struggling with making a starter spiral, so here goes.
Firstly the par file, so that you can copy it, and then you'll see some attachments at the end of the par file so that you can see what settings I used.
One important thing to do is to right click on the small preview window in the Editor window and uncheck "Reset Location". If this is checked, you may experience lots of difficulties in getting things to look anything like I have them here. (This was a tip I was given by Carl [2B2H] - and his is still the best tutorial I know of for getting lots of different things out of Apophysis 2.04B.)
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______________
Once you have this in your own Apophysis, you can either directly manipulate the triangles (xforms) in the editor window, or you can manipulate them in the Triangle Tab. Pretty soon you will want to add a new transform, and in this one I tend to keep it with Linear and then add maybe another bubble, or something different - try them out and see what you get! Try altering the values of what you choose, including the linear value, and also the weights. Another thing to play with is the Colour tab - jus click on the actual colour and hold the left button down while you drag left or right, and see the difference this makes to your colour distribution.
It's all your own experimentation from now on!
AnnaKirsten
12th July 2006, 16:29
I have put a sort of short tut on how to make a 2 transform starter for a bubble spiral in the Parameters thread HERE (http://www.innertraveler.com/messagecenter/showpost.php?p=22122&postcount=135). (As it contains a par file, I decided to put it in the other thread!)
I hope it will help someone..
judee3d
12th July 2006, 16:52
Really really cool starter flame!! Thanks!!
Q.R.
12th July 2006, 18:46
Totally cool!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you so much. Gee, after working with Apo in one form or another for a couple of years (I started with 1.0 ) I am just now following tuts. Guess you can teach an old dog new tricks!
judee3d
13th July 2006, 07:29
I really love this last one Nicky - fun to play with! :bounce:
AnnaKirsten
13th July 2006, 09:40
I'm glad it seems to work - sometimes I find playing with stuff already made by someone else doesn't! lol! It'd be interesting to see anything people make from this - it formed the basis of all sorts of my later Apo images once we were into doing the non-Julia type ones for this current contest.
Robin
14th July 2006, 12:58
ty, Angela...as u most likely know,. im not well versed in fractals or the use of Apo..but want to start messing with it..so I appreciate these very much!
AnnaKirsten
15th July 2006, 06:17
Yaaay Robin, go for it!!!
jdhauser
25th July 2006, 11:40
This is one from late last night. I have a finished image with the orbiter and will upload that later. Cheers!
Been a busy week here - everyone is still making Katrina repairs.
Apoxa:
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AnnaKirsten
25th July 2006, 12:11
Oooer that's a stunner! Thanks for sharing the par file, that's really generous of you! Will have a go with it later on (when I can pull my fingers out of UF).
jdhauser
29th July 2006, 18:59
Had a couple of questions and requests for this flame...
Enjoy! ;)
Baldor:
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jdhauser
2nd August 2006, 00:37
Here is another:
B-103:
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judee3d
2nd August 2006, 05:02
Wow, three in a row!! Thanks so much jd, these are great files! And thanks for posting the image with it - makes it so much better when you can see what it's about! I really like the fiery one - awesome! They all look like they will be fun to "play" with!
Thanks for posting!
Q.R.
17th August 2006, 11:21
Here is T's starter flame that my creation called Webs came out of. I can't remember where she originally posted it, so in case you have any questions, please PM her. Webs can be found HERE (http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=32244).
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AnnaKirsten
17th August 2006, 12:50
Thanks so much for sharing that par file.
All the par files are, or should be, in this thread we're in now, the problem being that if we don't give a link or show a picture, it is difficult to find which is which, lol! I'll see if I can locate it - or maybe you could ask T if she can point you to it as it may be over at FracFan?
I've edited your post, as you'll see, to give a link to your beautiful work of art made out of this parfile you've just shared.
tdierikx
17th August 2006, 17:27
I have no problems with anyone posting any par files here that I may have posted elsewhere on the internet...
Q.R. acknowledged who the parm came from - and that's perfectly fine by me, OK?
Anything posted to FracFan is free to the public eye - I don't expect exclusivity on anything I post there (or elsewhere for that matter)... lol!
Here is the image for those parms...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/tdierikx/stuff179-14psp.jpg
T.
Q.R.
18th August 2006, 14:30
Yep, that's the beauty that totally blew me away!!! Thank you so much T for sharing the file!
AnnaKirsten
18th August 2006, 14:55
Thanks T! And yes, that's one gorgeous flame!!!! WOWSERS!
Q.R.
18th August 2006, 18:59
I decided to post the file for "Webs". It's interesting to see how one file can mutate into something completely different. Have fun with it, and make it your own!
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tdierikx
18th August 2006, 19:17
Here is a tweak of your tweak Q.R....
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Enjoy!
T.
Q.R.
19th August 2006, 14:43
ROFL!!! I have one like that I was going to post. Do you suppose that there are only so many mutations we can create within the confines of that particular script? (I assume it was the plastic script that started this whole thing?) Anyway, I find that it will only take to changes withing certain limits. It's interesting.
tdierikx
19th August 2006, 17:26
Hehe... try changing the variations on Transform #1...
Change the values for Linear and Spherical on Transform #2...
Try using some Sinusoidal or some Polar on Transform #2...
Try it with different background colours...
Try changing the weight on Transform #2...
Try making Transform #2's triangle larger or smaller...
Add a Final Xform with some Julian, Juliascope, or Spherical...
Grab a copy of Joel Faber's Apophysis with the Pie variation and substitute Pie for Blur or Noise in Transform #1 (you can get this Apo version at http://joelfaber.deviantart.com/journal/9140599/)
Grab Gygrazok's version of Apo (http://gygrazok.deviantart.com/journal/9185446/) and try some of his new variations with Transform #1 - or use a Final Xform with the Split variation)
Lots of things to try... lol!
T.
AnnaKirsten
20th August 2006, 03:03
The JF Version was already in Permanent Links as it goes to that same page. I've now included the Z+ version in there (I don't know why I didn't do that before, as I've had it on my computer for a while now!)
Q.R.
20th August 2006, 18:26
I think I have enough different versions of Apo right now to last me a lifetime.
If another new one comes out, I'm not sure I want to know! *grins*
tdierikx
20th August 2006, 18:43
I'm positive that you'll appreciate the one that Joel Faber is working on right now... check out the "Bring It On" images in Michael Faber's DA gallery... http://michaelfaber.deviantart.com/gallery
T.
AnnaKirsten
21st August 2006, 04:53
OMGosh! Those flowers!!! That's simply amazing! And of course the others!
You know we're getting really spoilt for choice now with all these versions of Apo plus all the other fractal software that's about, that I don't think any single person would have enough hours in a year, let alone a day whereby they could make use of them all! I'm already finding I can't get round to more than I have now and really, really, realllllllly get to know them! lol!
Q.R.
21st August 2006, 18:40
I agree with AK. It gets to the point where you really can't concentrate on really getting to know a program because you just have to "play" in all of the other versions. It sort of waters things down.
tdierikx
21st August 2006, 18:44
Joel Faber is a part of the Apo testing/development team - so his versions will also include the good updates of the official versions...
Oh - and the next official version of Apo is probably going to have some new variations as well...
T.
AnnaKirsten
22nd August 2006, 03:15
Looking forward to it muchly! lol!
PatGoltz
22nd August 2006, 09:02
Here's one of Anna Kirsten's that I tweaked:
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AnnaKirsten
28th August 2006, 02:28
Pat, do you have a picture to attach of it so we can see it? I don't have time to open it in my Apo at the moment, and it's good if we can all can see how it looks too. I bet it's really nice!
The_Blue_Jester
3rd September 2006, 16:53
Here is the par file for "Gramaws Lamp". I followed Nemos' tutorial on making a heart, which gave me a base to start with. It took me about two weeks (off & on between my busy schedule) to come up with this & from their I just kept trying different tweaks for more lamp styles. Don't remember which gradient I used. Anyways have fun with it! :)
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AnnaKirsten
3rd September 2006, 18:48
Brilliant and thanks for sharing that! It's a great fractal you made there! Will have a little play with it!
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