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Gwenhwyfar
7th November 2004, 00:29
Hello

My question involves Poser 5 and the collaberation of Paintshop 9.
The dilemma is whenever I take my Poser 5 image from Poser and do postwork in my PSP 9 it makes the image appear slightly distorted. I have tried resize and pixel changes to no avail. I use Firefly as my renderer in Poser. Perhaps I should try the Poser 4 renderer and see if my results are the same. What I am trying to do is keep the clarity of my image intact.
Replies welcome.

Gwenny
:ambulance

Liewald
7th November 2004, 03:16
Culd you let me have a look at whats happening so I can have a better idea

dave


daave@liewald.co.uk

Gwenhwyfar
7th November 2004, 15:10
If you look at my gallery you will find "Elven Endeavors" look carefully and you will notice that it has distortions, detected only by careful review. I suppose most would not care but I am a perfectionist and if I can see it then I feel so will others. I hope this will help you and if not I could give you the steps towards the problem but it would take me awhile to backtrack.
Thank you for replying.

Gwenny
:clap:

Liewald
7th November 2004, 15:40
Hi Gwenn I has a close look at the pic. what format are you saving the poser pic as. If I guess JPG... would I be right ????

Gwenhwyfar
7th November 2004, 21:31
Yes you are corect, does this make a differance?

Gwenny
:musik010:

Hubbabub
8th November 2004, 03:50
Yes you are corect, does this make a differance?

Gwenny
:musik010:

Yes, that make a difference
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JPEG is "lossy," meaning that the decompressed image isn't quite the same as
the one you started with. (There are lossless image compression algorithms,
but JPEG achieves much greater compression than is possible with lossless
methods.) JPEG is designed to exploit known limitations of the human eye,
notably the fact that small color changes are perceived less accurately than
small changes in brightness. Thus, JPEG is intended for compressing images
that will be looked at by humans.
(Text taken from the JPEG image compression FAQ - http://www.faqs.org/faqs/jpeg-faq/part1/ )
------------

If you change the "compression" rate in PSP to a lower number then
the image get less "distortions" and the file size get bigger when you
save the image.
So you have to balance the compression rate,
to get as little distortions as possible and a small file size.


BTW.
There are a program/plugin that a company called Vimas make
that is called "Web Image Guru" (WIG). This plugin/program
produce JPEG images that has small file size and less distortion.
http://www.vimas.com/ve_guru.htm
Shareware: US $39


/Hubbabub

Liewald
8th November 2004, 04:35
Generally I dont compress anything until the final image is completed to avoid this. If you keep the image as a raw bmp it should avoid the problem.

Hubbabub
8th November 2004, 12:12
Generally I dont compress anything until the final image is completed to avoid this. If you keep the image as a raw bmp it should avoid the problem.

I usually save my WIP stuff as a PNG file or in PSP's own format.
I try to stay clear of BMP :)


/Hubbabub

Gwenhwyfar
8th November 2004, 12:40
What if I save as Gif?

I wanted to thank both of you for your comments and explanations I just hope my simple mind can comprehend it all. :juggle:
:w00t:

Gwenny

Hubbabub
8th November 2004, 13:04
What if I save as Gif?

I wanted to thank both of you for your comments and explanations I just hope my simple mind can comprehend it all. :juggle:
:w00t:

Gwenny

GIF can only save images with up to 256 colours,
so in a image like your "Elven Endeavors" it would loose colours
and get blotchy.

You must save your Work In Progress (WIP) images in a format
that can save the whole colour palette (true colour) and use a
non lossy compression.


If you work in PSP with layers then you should save your WIP image
in PSP own file format.

If you only work in a flat (one layer) image then you can save your
WIP image in PNG or PSP's own format.

(PNG and PSP's own format uses a non lossy compression)


/Hubbabub

Gwenhwyfar
13th November 2004, 00:34
Thank you for your outstanding explanation. I will heed your advice.

Gwenny
:airborne: